See, that's a fallacy. Basic anatomy and proportion do not require the comic to be super realistic. People like Mike Oeming, Francis Yu, Humberto Ramos and any number of other stylized artists do not draw "realistic" characters, yet I'm not bitching or complaining about their artwork. The reason? Even with their overly stylized artwork, they all show a basic understanding of anatomy and provide a consistent and identifiable groundwork for their art.
Their characters don't magically change proportions from page to page (or cover to cover in Turner's case). Their poses and panel layouts don't magically change shape so they don't have to draw certain basic body parts, like feet in the case of Mr Turner. They all maintain a certain level of basic artistic consistency that showcases a general knowledge of simple anatomy and proportions that Michael Turner does not.
Don't believe me? Hit the jump to see what I'm talking about as I do a rundown of the numerous covers Turner has churned out over the past couple years.

First off, credit to Joel Bryan of
I Against Comics for the rightmost part of this image detailing the various problems with Turner's proportions. I'm not a professional artist by any means, but even I know the basics of human anatomy and anyone that looks at this image has to see that there's something wrong with it and, no, I'm not talking about the size of her breasts.
Just stand up and look down at your body. Note where 'landmarks' show up, such as the elbow and wrist, and how they line up with other pieces of your body, like the waist or hips. Armed with this simple knowledge, look again at this image of Power Girl. Her elbow lines up with her breasts. Her wrists are below her hips. The hair on both characters is about the only thing consistent between the two and even that looks like it was cut and pasted onto the characters. Wigs look better than those attempts at hair.
"Okay, okay, so what? A few pieces are off, it's his style."
Sure, elongated, lanky, stretched, misshapen bodies can be a style. Many artists distort physical features in their artwork. However, take a look at Black Canary. Her proportions, which are still wrong from an anatomy standpoint, are completely different from Power Girls and, again, I'm not talking about breast size. Where her elbows, wrists, hips and other body parts are located all line up in completely different spots compared to the other female in the same image! That is not a "style". That is an amateur mistake that would get most artists' portfolios thrown in the trash after the first couple pages.
"Okay, I get it already, he messed up on one cover. Big deal."
It wouldn't be a big deal if it was just "one cover". However, it happens on every cover. Take a look at this little annotated montage I've put together.

I count about 24 Marvel characters on this cover to an issue of
World War Hulk. Most people have, roughly, two feet. Shocking, I know. However, how many are featured on this cover? Without seeing it, some might guess 48, two per person. Others might assume a few got cut off or hidden behind the action and guess 12-24 range. Would you believe there is only one foot on the entire cover? One. Even that solitary foot is cut off and barely visible from under
Spider-Man's thigh.
I won't even go into the rather generic and featureless likenesses he has rendered of the various characters behind the Hulk. They resemble disproportioned blobs that are only recognizable by the colours and costumes of each character.
Also, check out the size of Hulk's head compared to the massive chest, arms and thighs (can't say legs since there are no feet).

Check out this beauty from
Sub-Mariner #6. Obviously, there are no feet drawn. Heaven forbid. However, I draw your attention to his right arm. Namor is angled inward on the cover. His right arm is angled outward towards us, not quite head on, but definitely not angled inward. Also, it's currently bigger than
Namor's entire torso.
Now, note the left arm in the background. Based on the elbow location of the right arm, standing straight up, the arm should bend just under his pectorals. Since the left arm is shown at a 90 degree angle, we must assume it is bending at the waist line, which is completely different from his right arm.

This
Supergirl cover doesn't even try to cover up the fact he couldn't be bothered drawing the feet. He just ends the image at the ankle and submits it to DC. Don't even talk to me about the arms or legs.

Nice feet
Superman! I think I'll just mash 'em together and have them "fade to black". Check out the angle of the chest in relation to the front on hips and legs at the bottom. And those forearms are ridiculous.
Yes, you can stylize super heroes with huge muscles and giant chests and so on, but when one arm is completely different from the other and the upper and lower torso doesn't connect properly, it stops being a style.

One foot visible from six people. Note
Cassie's left leg compared to her right one. Also, check out Superboy's enormous forearm that connects to a wee little elbow.
Starfire's torso doesn't look like it belongs to the hips and legs it connects to and the back just doesn't even match up with the hips. Her left thigh is thicker than her entire body. Even bent down,
Superboy is barely taller than Starfire's hips? He's standing in a battle ready pose, not crouched like Kid Flash. Same thing with
Robin.

Not even going to discuss anatomy or proportions here. I'm just going to point out how Turner decided to draw random grass sprouts, stuff you'd see in a child's drawing or some amateur doodle, covering the feet of
Cable,
Colossus and
Rogue. Well, Rogue's feet are covered by random rocky hill cropping, but the point still stands.
Iceman is conveniently tilted away from us so his ice platform covers his feet.
Cyclops feet just disappear and never show up again and
Jean's are missing behind her thighs for some reason. Excellent work all around. Seven people standing right in front of us, none of which are cut off by the bottom or side's of the cover, all lacking a basic human body part.

Two feet, both overlapping each other on
Spider-Man, on this
Civil War cover.
Cap's legs and body are abnormally shaped, but hidden well enough behind that shield of his.

What happened to you
Sue Richards? Did the
Thing squeeze you too hard or something? Your waist and stomach area look broken. Also, no feet to be seen anywhere. Even
Johnny, who is standing in plain sight of us, has no feet as they conveniently blend into his flames.

No feet. Anywhere. Even the giant leg of
Deathstroke in the foreground lacks a foot. Don't even look at Hawkman's "legs" (I think that green smear is his legs). And
Green Lantern's left arm? It ends at his knee if you line it up with the rest of his body. Also, what is
Green Arrow standing on? Kyle is flat on the outcropping there. Ollie should be on the same plane as him or his positioning would be completely different. Finally, did someone squish
Flash's left leg? I know that thigh is huge, but it doesn't explain below the kneecap.

Wow, he didn't even try to cover it up here. Just airbrush out everything below the knee please, thank you very much. Again, most people's wrists and hands line up with the waist or upper crotch area.
Batman's arm, if he extended his fingers, would reach his knee. His left arm is longer than his right, which is closer to us! Yes, the Leaguers are progressively lowering as they fade to the background, but Batman is standing straight up and his wrist is even further down from the crotch, which doesn't angle downward with the rest of the Leaguers in his line.
Conclusion
Michael Turner can't draw. It's not a style. You can't blame it on the comic book medium not being realistic. It's terrible art that no one should be paid or hired to produce. I can't believe someone who doesn't know how, and openly refuses, to draw feet gets as much work as Turner. It boggles the mind. I'm not asking for much here, just some simple and consistent proportions, at least between characters on the same cover. Oh, and some feet. Most people have those. At least most people I know.
8 comments:
Excellent points. I wish they'd stop having him draw 6 covers every month.
I have to admit that I was a big fan of Turner, especially in the supergirl saga in the superman/batman title, but a few hundreds covers later my perception started to change but I couldn´t say exactly why, now I have begun to understand. This is a good article with some solid points, some can be debatable, but that´s the point, to share our opinions. Now I can see why some people call Turner the new Liefeld...Greetings from Mexico.
As someone who recently took up drawing as a hobby I have to say thanks for the review. Even to my inexpert eye powergirl is awful. Apart from her chest her back is broken halfway up and shifted to the rear a bit. I have that copy of Identity Crisis and never realised the errors, along with the other work. I mean it's better than I can do at the moment but the simple errors you mention are something I'll try not to make.
A masterful post! I think a lot of people don't notice your points about proportions as his covers can strike you as dynamic at quick glance (i.e. the Hulk cover above), but once you start really looking at them all sorts of anatomical impossibilities become increasingly obvious. You did an excellent job breaking them down.
My gripe: He consistently draws arms too short - that's a common problem in all the examples above. He also invents muscles which aren't there (see Namor's arm), but a lot of comic artists do that so I just sort of chuckle and let it slide.
As far as him continually getting work I'm assuming he falls in the Greg Land category of producing laughable output but doing so consistently on deadline (and, though I've never met him, probably being a pretty nice guy as you allow for above). A correctly drawn cover does no one any good if it's two months late. That said, it is frustrating to see this sort of dreck week after week when there are talented, trained artists desperately trying to break into the business.
One of my favorite Turner covers to hate is his Daredevil #100 variant. It has the ridiculous abs and generic male face (holy cheekbones!) and the worst part for me is how he doesn't even attempt to make it look like Daredevil is wearing a costume. Just draw a basically nude male figure then add some lines to show where the undies, gloves and boots should be. No thanks.
The thing I notice about Turner's work is that the flaws in his work are noticeable at a quick glance. I know that he's not the only artist who fudges anatomy a bit, but his are very noticeable right away.
And every time I see that Fantastic Four cover my eye automatically goes to Mr. Fantastic and how odd he looks.
Art is such an important piece of comics (perhaps the most important piece) that it is completely fair to scrutinize in this manner. Perhaps you guys should stop pissing your pants about a blog rant?
Anyway, I, too, loathe Michael Turner. And the feet thing is actually really frustrating now that you've pointed it out.
I'm no turner fan.. let that be clear
and i don't care either way if you like turner or if you hate him, but seriously.. if you want your blog to be taken seriously in its reviews and posts (cause overall this is a decent site), keep room for other opinions. it makes you a lot more credible
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